What is the 'endgame' of armed conflicts? Is it to win the war or to win the peace? Russia’s history expert and author Stephen Kotkin shares his views on the current geopolitical turmoil, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and the importance of history in navigating the future world. Stephen Kotkin is a Senior Fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies (FSI) and Kleinheinz Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He has been teaching for more than three decades at Princeton University, and currently holds the position of Professor of History & International Affairs. Kotkin is renowned for his two-volume biography of Joseph Stalin and is currently completing the third and final volume. This is part one of The Shifting World Order Series. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #StephenKotkin ---------------------- About the host: Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and currently a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC), Stanford University. Gita is also just appointed as an Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations in the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham, UK. ---------------------- Get Kotkin's Books Here: www.periplus.com/p/9780143132158?utm_source=EG www.periplus.com/p/9780143127864?utm_source=EG ---------------------- Understand this Episode Better: https://sgpp.me/eps174notes ----------------------- SGPP Indonesia Master of Public Policy: admissions@sgpp.ac.id https://admissions.sgpp.ac.id/ https://wa.me/628111522504 Other "Endgame" episode playlists:    • International Guests      • Wandering Scientists      • The Take   Visit and subscribe: null null ------------------------ Chapters 00:00 - Intro 02:20 - Intellectual Influences 09:55 - Why Russia? 23:00 - Empathy & History 36:13 - How the Ukraine War Ends 50:59 - US' True Power