Avril Haines, former CIA Deputy Director and former Deputy National Security Adviser to President Obama, chats with Aroop Mukharji (@aroopmukharji) about being a woman at the CIA, why we don’t know much about North Korea, what it’s like inside the White House situation room, and how she went from indie bookstore owner to No. 2 at the CIA. Subscribe to the Belfer Center for a new episode of Office Hours the first of each month! Listen to the full interview and subscribe to the podcast: http://hvrd.me/K2K330e5mfD More about Avril Haines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Haines Belfer Center website: http://www.belfercenter.org/ Listen to the full interview: http://hvrd.me/jeMZ30e5mj1