📰 Subscribe to UnHerd today at: http://unherd.com/join UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers and professor of peace and conflict research Ashok Swain discuss Sweden joining NATO, the war in Ukraine and the crisis in Western democracies. Listen to the podcast: https://plnk.to/unherd?to=page Follow UnHerd on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unherd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unherd/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unherd/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unherdtv //TIMECODES// 00:00 - 01:13 - Introduction 01:13 - 09:18 - Ashok Swain explains Sweden’s accession to NATO 09:18 - 19:49 - Ashoks view on the US sending over cluster bombs to Ukraine as part of its war effort 19:49 - 23:32 - Is having a diplomatic conversation the best way to respond to aggression? 23:32 - 27:31 - Anti-war protests, and how Ukraine has influenced these events 27:31 - 29:52 - Is there hope for some of these new voices to begin to see momentum and change build? 29:52 - 30:22 - Concluding thoughts #UnHerd #FreddieSayers #AshokSwain