An interview with my friend Paul, who proves that you can make a career out of a love for BOTH software development and infrastructure/cloud tech. 0:00 Introduction 2:15 Early Career as a Sysadmin 4:20 Company size 5:50 Ruby and Chef 8:20 Early AWS work 9:15 early devops ideas 10:00 Ruby on Rails love 11:00 CloudKick 12:25 Great tech interview idea 13:00 git skills 14:22 How to learn programming 16:08 Tech Learning Projects 17:30 Stages of Programming Skill 19:20 Most influential tech books 21:40 Functional Programming 23:10 Paul's Tech Learning List 24:00 Monitoring, Tracing, Observability 26:00 Degree and First Job 31:40 If you had to start over... 34:15 Tech with Friends 36:14 Current Work 40:58 Which skills do newbies neglect? 47:20 Real Tech Career Planning 48:48 Experiences in Management 51:47 Niches and Tech Sub-Industries 54:52 Cultural markers of a good company Paul's GitHub profile: https://github.com/pwelch Stephen Ball: Deliberate Git https://www.rakeroutes.com/deliberate-git/ sublime merge Sandi Metz: https://sandimetz.com/ Practical Object-Oriented Design: An Agile Primer Using Ruby: https://amzn.to/3dNRtgx Unix and Linux System Administration Handbook: https://amzn.to/3AvzkO5 Cloud System Administration Vol. 2: https://amzn.to/3yu5Ga2 The Little Schemer: https://amzn.to/3hDFXW6 The Four-Hour Workweek: https://amzn.to/3ypm1gn Camille Fournier: manager's path - https://amzn.to/3jM2zGm