This week we're joined by DHH, the co founder of 37signals, and the creator of Ruby on Rails. We talk about the future of web development, the history of Rails, and the evolution of the web. David also talks about his views on the longevity of software and ecosystems. https://twitter.com/dhh https://37signals.com/ Episode sponsored By CodeCrafters (https://codecrafters.io/devtoolsfm) 40% Discount! Episode sponsored By RunMe (https://runme.dev/) Become a paid subscriber our patreon, spotify, or apple podcasts for the full episode. https://www.patreon.com/devtoolsfm https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/devtoolsfm/subscribe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/devtools-fm/id1566647758 null 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:29 The Genesis and Impact of Ruby on Rails 00:04:27 The Aesthetic and Philosophical Approach to Programming with Ruby 00:09:32 Ad 1 00:11:15 Aesthetics Continued 00:23:49 Ad 2 00:24:23 The Moden Web 00:40:27 The Shift Away from Apple 00:55:16 Rethinking Cloud Dependency and Advocating for Simplicity in Web Development