"There will be a need for radical change, if we don't do it, sorry, the right wingers will do it." In a wide ranging discussion of the world stage, Putin, Ukraine, Trump and the dangers of religion in an era of atheism, Slavoj Žižek tells #timesradio how the West can navigate the threats of modern nationalist populism. 📻 Listen to Times Radio - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio 📍 Subscribe to our channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTjDhFuGXlhx9Us0gq0VK2w 🗞 Subscribe to The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/subscribe/radio-3for3/ 📲 Get the free Times Radio app https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/how-to-listen-to-times-radio/app